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66 SMALL LATINE AND LESSE GREEKE the late Professor Moore Smith-whose last years it was my privilege distantly to know, and whose memory I revere-read the results in the margins. In his Rhetor,"a which was printed under date of November, 1577, Harvey has given us his program for training the ideal orator. It is exactly the program he is here following in his own reading. So either the date in the Quintilian is in some way wrong, or Harvey worked out his glowing program in Rhetor before he had himself tried it. Harvey proposed to read in his lectures the arts of oratory of both Cicero and Quintilian (Esv ff.), with the notes of P. Ramus in twenty golden books. He would add to Ramus the fourth book of Vives, De Causis Corruptarum sirtium. But first the students must have Talaeus ad unguem. Then Harvey passes the rhetorical works of Cicero in review. The Ad Herennium, which is rather by Cornificius or Gallio is to be left aside as inchoate and adolescent. But the De Oratore receives the highest priase. Partitiones is splendid, but has comparatively little of edocutio or actio; read the notes of Talaeus upon it where all these things are treated systematically. Brutus is omitted as a mere catalogue of orators. Orator is an impractical ideal (Cf. Melanchthon). Likewise, De Optima Genere Oratorum, in which Cicero describes the Attic orator, is to be omitted. Other things are to be drawn from Ramus. Harvey does not here list Topica, because it is inventio, and so on the Ramist system belongs to logic,96 not rhetoric. Harvey proposed to begin with the rhetoric of Talaeus (H2v ff.), then follow with Cicero, Quintilian, Aristotle, and Hermogenes; if time permitted, even Demetrius Phalerius and Dionysius of Halicarnassus. As guides, the students are to take Ramus, Vives, Agricola, and the annotations of Talaeus on both De Oratore and Partitiones. So through the eyes of Talaeus and Ramus Harvey would view Cicero,-specifically De Oratory and Partitiones,-and Quintilian, with some attention to Aristotle and Hermogenes. But to the French Ramus and Talaeus he would add the German Agri-cola. Indeed, Harvey thinks well of this whole German school. Else-where he notes on Sturmius, Alterum Germaniae lumen, post Rod. Agricolam, Erasmum, Melancthonem, Camerarium, Regiomontanum. Leuini nostri delitiae Romanae et Atticae.97 5' Copy in University of Illinois Library. 96 For these works, see Harvey's Ciceronianus. D7 Smith, Marginalia, p. 256.